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What's in a Ring?

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Editor's Note: It's A Man's World featuring independent male bloggers is intended to go inside the minds of single men and give their unfiltered perspectives on dating and relationships. The views and opinions expressed in this blog are solely those of the blogger and do not reflect those of ESSENCE or ESSENCE.com. Check out the latest post from popular relationship blogger and ESSENCE.com contributor Anslem Samuel.

The other day I found myself involved in an interesting conversation with this girl *Renee, who I met through my friend during brunch. Apparently Renee and her long-term boyfriend have been together for six years and she's been waiting for the past two years for her ring. Now, the idea of a woman wanting/expecting an engagement ring after several years of monogamy is not unheard of. In fact, Renee assured me that her beau is more than ready to make that lifelong commitment to her. The reason for her wait, though, is that she wants a specific ring. A five-figure sparkler that he's been spending the past 24-plus months saving up for, while also stacking chips for the down payment on their first home once they're married.

Anslem160.jpgAs a homeowner, I know how tough it is to come up with the down payment for a new crib, but to be completely honest I have/had no idea how much a good engagement ring goes for (I don't wear jewelry, not even a watch, it's just not my thing). Even still, a 10K ring doesn't seem too outlandish for the woman you plan to love 'til death do you part, but at the same time, that's at least a fourth of the down payment you'd need to put down on a decent home. My financial-framed mind can think of a million better ways for newlyweds to spend their money. Furthermore, I doubt in these tough financial times that the average Joe has an extra 10Gs laying around in his bank account in hopes that his beloved says "I do." Couldn't that money go to buying their first home, opening a college fund for their first born, or just something more concrete and sensible than a piece of jewelry that rests solely on your bride's finger?

That's not to say I don't believe the woman you want to spend the rest of your life with doesn't deserve the absolute best, it's just that I don't think there should be a price tag on your love. Given the costs of weddings, homes, kids, etc., doesn't a high priced bauble seem a little less significant in the grand scheme of things? No wonder the average couple begins their marriage in a financial hole and it takes them years before they can actually buy their first crib (if at all). You can't live in or eat a ring, but the money overspent on one could provide so much. To top it all off, it's a but unfair because the union starts off with the woman getting a bonus, while the guy gets stuck with a bill. Of course, marriage isn't about who gets what and how much (that's for the divorce lawyers to figure out) but it still seems like a lopsided way to begin a lifelong relationship. The woman demands/expects a pricey token of affection, and if the man doesn't deliver gets placed in the doghouse forever or gets viewed as less of a man.

While all these thoughts rattled around in my head, I finally asked Renee one pivotal question: "If your boyfriend gave you a ring that was lesser than the one you dreamed of, would you accept it or walk away?" Thankfully, she gave me hope for the female species by saying that yes she would accept a lesser ring because she truly loves him. She did admit that she would be highly disappointed, though. I can live with that, but if she had said she would have walked away I would've given her serious side-eye. Because if a woman is more focused on a ring and its price tag rather than the actual meaning behind it and the love it symbolizes, then that female probably isn't the right one for me.

I know most little girls dream of their wedding day with all their family, friends and enemies basking in their special day (the man is usually just another accent to her day). And they fantasize about the day their beloved gets down on one knee and pops the big question. After a woman says yes, she'll walk around for months/years showing off their rock to anyone with eyes. But I'd hope in all the excitement and hoopla that the woman I gave that ring too (no matter the price) would value my love, my presence, my pluses and negatives more than a gold or platinum band with a fossilized piece of coal on her finger. I hope, I pray.

Okay, ladies, same question: If the man you loved got you a ring that was lesser than the one you wanted, would you accept or decline? Why? How important is an engagement ring to you? Would you sacrifice a pricey ring in favor of buying a home or starting a college fund for your kids? Do you think there are some women out there that dream of getting married so badly that they'll accept a ring from a man they don't even love just to get hitched? Fellas, how much would you be willing to drop for the love of your life? Is there such a thing as too much?

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Anslem Samuel makes an excellent point with his blog. You can count me in the school of thought that it is ridiculous to spend a fortune on a ring. I work in corporate America where it is very common to see people (men and women) wear a simple wedding band. As a result, I don't think it's necessary to wear a huge gaudy ring just to prove a point (I saw Khloe Kardashain's ring on Sunday and although my jaw dropped from how fat her rock was it actually looked tacky). I'd much rather have a HUSBAND and a simple ring than a boyfriend and a ring on layaway for 2+ years. Plus I'm starting to see more and more people upgrade their rings at a later time. I think that is a much smarter idea then trying to go big from the jump when there are so many other expenses an engaged couple has to worry about.

As a little girl, I always dreamed of the day, I would buy my own house. It took ten years after my wedding day (civil ceremony 22 years ago) for my husband and myself to realize that dream, no regrets. I tell both my kids, I'll help you with the down payment for a house, but never the wedding (or ring for that matter). Engagements and weddings are way too pretentious. Black couples can benefit from investing that money is something more worthwhile.

I always joked that if a boyfriend would propose marriage to me, on a ordinary Wednesday afternoon, that we were going to head down to the courthouse on Thursday morning! I always felt that spending 3+ years saving money just to have a big, lavish wedding was silly.
In regards to the questions that Mr. Samuel had posted, the ring doesn't matter to me (it could be for the fact that I don't like wearing rings). To me, the engagement ring is just a piece of metal.

I would love to have a wedding with the man I loved. I would accept any type of ring if the love is true and I'm happy that all I care about and would be thankful for. the funny thing is how different women are. some of us would be grateful for a decent loving man while others want and want to no end.

Samuel I applaud for presenting this blog. As a young female we often times get caught up in what the entertainment, media outlets portray. Kobe got the $4mil ring for his wife(he can afford this). If I was to marry, I would focus on more important matters, such as a home, college funds etc. So I thank you for this, because it brings out valid points that we all can reflect on. I think true love is worth more than the cost of a ring.

This is lame. The guy who did this article looks like he was hit with a whole ugly tree. Whap Whap. DANNNNNNNNNNG! He's sooo not cute at all.

There aren't many women who don't want a nice engagement ring, I mean after all you're going into this hoping it will last forever. I look forward to getting a nice sized ring but I disagree with how 'Renee' is going about it. If she feels the need to wait 2 years until her fiance can afford a $10,000 ring, why doesn't she chip in to help. If that idea doesn't sound ideal then I agree with Reecie in terms of upgrading later down the line.

There aren't many women who don't want a nice engagement ring, I mean after all you're going into this hoping it will last forever. I look forward to getting a nice sized ring but I disagree with how 'Renee' is going about it. If she feels the need to wait 2 years until her fiance can afford a $10,000 ring, why doesn't she chip in to help. If that idea doesn't sound ideal then I agree with Reecie in terms of upgrading later down the line.

There aren't many women who don't want a nice engagement ring, I mean after all you're going into this hoping it will last forever. I look forward to getting a nice sized ring but I disagree with how 'Renee' is going about it. If she feels the need to wait 2 years until her fiance can afford a $10,000 ring, why doesn't she chip in to help. If that idea doesn't sound ideal then I agree with Reecie in terms of upgrading later down the line.

There aren't many women who don't want a nice engagement ring, I mean after all you're going into this hoping it will last forever. I look forward to getting a nice sized ring but I disagree with how 'Renee' is going about it. If she feels the need to wait 2 years until her fiance can afford a $10,000 ring, why doesn't she chip in to help. If that idea doesn't sound ideal then I agree with Reecie in terms of upgrading later down the line.

There aren't many women who don't want a nice engagement ring, I mean after all you're going into this hoping it will last forever. I look forward to getting a nice sized ring but I disagree with how 'Renee' is going about it. If she feels the need to wait 2 years until her fiance can afford a $10,000 ring, why doesn't she chip in to help. If that idea doesn't sound ideal then I agree with Reecie in terms of upgrading later down the line.

There aren't many women who don't want a nice engagement ring, I mean after all you're going into this hoping it will last forever. I look forward to getting a nice sized ring but I disagree with how 'Renee' is going about it. If she feels the need to wait 2 years until her fiance can afford a $10,000 ring, why doesn't she chip in to help. If that idea doesn't sound ideal then I agree with Reecie in terms of upgrading later down the line.

There aren't many women who don't want a nice engagement ring, I mean after all you're going into this hoping it will last forever. I look forward to getting a nice sized ring but I disagree with how 'Renee' is going about it. If she feels the need to wait 2 years until her fiance can afford a $10,000 ring, why doesn't she chip in to help. If that idea doesn't sound ideal then I agree with Reecie in terms of upgrading later down the line.

I didn't want or need a big, showy ring -- there are so many issues surrounding engagement rings, not just financial cost, but socio-political issues about how diamonds are obtained, etc. I told my husband how I felt. Believe me, he is a very financial responsible person (a CPA and in finance). But at the same time, he wanted to give me something as a token of his feelings, and of our new life together... and to keep other men from talking to me while on my daily commute :) But he knew better than to go beyond his means, and he took advantage of online shopping opportunities (and avoided pricey brand names) to find the ring he wanted to give me at the price he thought was reasonable, and from a place that didn't sell "blood diamonds." I appreciate the sentiment behind his gift, and he appreciates that I love him no matter what, and that rings are secondary (or even tertiary) to love and common sense! And he's taught me that, if you plan, have reasonable expectations, and live within your means, you can have the ring, the wedding, and the house!

I am not one who thinks tons of money should be spent on anything. I will not and did not walk away from a guy because he gave me the ring I didn't want. However, I was disappointed because I don't think he shopped with me in mind. The price wasn't the thing; it was the ring itself. I thought it was really ugly, but I loved it anyway. When I finally told him, he said he knew it, and he said something really interesting. "You are the one who has to wear it, so you should like it." Now, the ring I liked was less than a grand.

I also don't believe in spending money that you don't have on a wedding, but I will be truthful and saying that I want a nice one on a budget. Just because you want those things doesn't make you a shallow or bad person. You just need to make sure you can afford it.

i would absolutely accept the lesser ring, its symbolic of love, to me its not about the size or how much it cost, so that would be cool with me; however, i would in the beginning be looking for something reasonable anyway......i do beleive there are women that will get married just to say they have someone.....that is not whats up=0) i couldnt do that, ive never been married, im well into my 30's but its not that deep for me to get married like that, not that way.

i would absolutely accept the lesser ring, its symbolic of love, to me its not about the size or how much it cost, so that would be cool with me; however, i would in the beginning be looking for something reasonable anyway......i do beleive there are women that will get married just to say they have someone.....that is not whats up=0) i couldnt do that, ive never been married, im well into my 30's but its not that deep for me to get married like that, not that way.

i would absolutely accept the lesser ring, its symbolic of love, to me its not about the size or how much it cost, so that would be cool with me; however, i would in the beginning be looking for something reasonable anyway......i do beleive there are women that will get married just to say they have someone.....that is not whats up=0) i couldnt do that, ive never been married, im well into my 30's but its not that deep for me to get married like that, not that way.

i would absolutely accept the lesser ring, its symbolic of love, to me its not about the size or how much it cost, so that would be cool with me; however, i would in the beginning be looking for something reasonable anyway......i do beleive there are women that will get married just to say they have someone.....that is not whats up=0) i couldnt do that, ive never been married, im well into my 30's but its not that deep for me to get married like that, not that way.

I am 36 years young, but have an old fashioned mind-set. Material gain does not drive me nor does it motivates me. It's the little things in life that makes a big difference (in a positive way). I will rather have a relationship full of substance and stability, and a cz, rather than a shallow, self-serving relationship with a 10ct diamond. The extent of any relationship is measured by the love, trust, respect, and support each individual share with one another.

I am 36 years young, but have an old fashioned mind-set. Material gain does not drive me nor does it motivates me. It's the little things in life that makes a big difference (in a positive way). I will rather have a relationship full of substance and stability, and a cz, rather than a shallow, self-serving relationship with a 10ct diamond. The extent of any relationship is measured by the love, trust, respect, and support each individual share with one another.

I am 36 years young, but have an old fashioned mind-set. Material gain does not drive me nor does it motivates me. It's the little things in life that makes a big difference (in a positive way). I will rather have a relationship full of substance and stability, and a cz, rather than a shallow, self-serving relationship with a 10ct diamond. The extent of any relationship is measured by the love, trust, respect, and support each individual share with one another.

i think the ring should come from the man whatever he wants me to have i am ok with that. you cant put a price on love

i think the ring should come from the man whatever he wants me to have i am ok with that. you cant put a price on love. i love a old fashion type of guy

Samuel,
I would say, NO. Any Lady should have the Right to have the Diamond in which both parties agree upon. Some women lives began with a 10K - 1.5 cut. Moving into the Better neighborhood onto the Children. Progress. I personally, would accept what he could afford - A Band of Gold is Great! Life should not be as Complicated as Other's make it out it to be.

Hi there, I like your blog alot, it s has very informative content, I found it while I was searching for wedding on aol. Thanks for sharing all this info, keep up the excellent work you do here.

I'm cool with a cubic zirconia. Better to have REAL love and a fake diamond than the other way around.
Wonder if someone like Elin Woods would agree?

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